Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/27/2005 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 76 BIG GAME SERVICES & COMM. SERVICES BD TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 76(FIN) Out of Committee
+ SB 113 GULF OF ALASKA GROUNDFISH FISHERY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ HB 102 MEDICAL LICENSE: APPLICATION/FOREIGN GRAD TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 102 am Out of Committee
+ SB 124 FISHERIES BUSINESS LICENSE; BOND TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 124(L&C) Out of Committee
+ SB 153 INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS REVENUE BONDS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 124(L&C)                                                                                            
     "An  Act relating  to  requirements to  obtain  and maintain  a                                                            
     fisheries  business license;  relating to security required  of                                                            
     fish processors  and primary fish buyers; and  providing for an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:38:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK HARLAMERT,  Juneau Section Chief, Tax Division,  Department of                                                            
Revenue,  stated  that this  bill  would  "increase the  process  of                                                            
accountability  for  repayment   of obligations   that  support  the                                                            
industry" and improve the  protection of employees and fishermen who                                                            
work for or sell to processors.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  stated that  current law requires  a processor  to be                                                            
current on their taxes  under Title 43 in that Section 1 of the bill                                                            
would modify  current law  to require a processor  to be current  on                                                            
their  Employment  Security  Contributions  (ESC),  current  on  any                                                            
Occupational  Safety and Health Act  (OSHA) fines, current  on their                                                            
Seafood Marketing Assessment, and current on local fish taxes.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  noted that Members' packets contain  a Department of                                                            
Revenue overview [copy on file].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert expressed  that  the  Department's overview  is  very                                                            
detailed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:41:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green also noted  that Members' packets also include a six-                                                            
page Fisheries  License and  Bond Bill Sectional  Analysis  from the                                                            
Office of the Attorney General [copy on file].                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert affirmed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert continued  that Section 2 of the bill would modify the                                                            
process  through  which  the  Department   of  Labor  and  Workforce                                                            
Development  could collect any unpaid  ESC from a processor's  labor                                                            
bond in  that it could allow  a processor  to secure payment  of the                                                            
estimated tax for the year  using security that had been provided to                                                            
the Department for the prior year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert  noted  that  Section  3  of the  bill  is  the  most                                                            
complicated   section  of   the  bill.  It   would  change   bonding                                                            
requirements and  the conditions through which employees  could gain                                                            
satisfaction  from the bond. Such  efforts would assist in  aligning                                                            
processors'  bond levels  with  the risks.  It would  ease the  bond                                                            
rules  involved   when  a  processor  fails  to  pay   employees  or                                                            
fishermen.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE: Due to poor recording  quality, the testifier's comments were                                                            
difficult to discern.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  understood   that  the  primary  objective  of  the                                                            
legislation is located in Section 3 of the bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  affirmed. Section 3 would make "the  bond levels more                                                            
responsive  to  processors  behavior".  A  processor  who  fails  to                                                            
compensate fishermen  or employees "would be more  likely under this                                                            
bill to  have their bond  level go up." In  addition, they  would be                                                            
unable to utilize real property in lieu of bonds.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Green  ascertained   that   a  processor's   bond   level                                                            
requirement  could be  increased.  She asked  the point  at which  a                                                            
processor's  obligation would create  a warning that could  prohibit                                                            
them  from  obtaining  and  maintaining  their  fisheries   business                                                            
license or might subject them to prosecution.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert stated  that  a processor  would be  prohibited  from                                                            
getting their license were  they delinquent on their Title 43 taxes,                                                            
ESC, OSHA fines, or the  Seafood Marketing Assessment. This would be                                                            
a very effective tool in getting those payments.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green understood  that the bond  requirement component  of                                                            
the bill is a separate issue from the licensing requirements.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  stated that  the bill has  two major components:  one                                                            
being  the  requirements  for  licensure  and the  other  being  the                                                            
bonding component.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:43:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman stated  that, upon reviewing the accompanying fiscal                                                            
notes,  it  appears  that  this  bill  might   generate  revenue  by                                                            
furthering  the collection of the  Seafood Marketing Assessment.  In                                                            
addition, he wondered if  the State's imposition of a cash bond on a                                                            
processor who  got in trouble for lack of payment,  might jeopardize                                                            
that  processor  ability to  operate.  It could  be  assumed that  a                                                            
processor who had not paid  their obligations might be having a cash                                                            
flow problem.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:44:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  communicated that the  State would have "better  luck                                                            
collecting the  Seafood Marketing Assessment", as  presently keeping                                                            
current on  that is not a requirement;  however, only a "relatively                                                             
few" do not currently pay that tax.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert  stated  that  the  elements   that  would  affect  a                                                            
processor's  bond would be  whether one's  employees, fishermen,  or                                                            
unemployment  security contributions  had been  paid. Currently  the                                                            
bond  level  would be  unaffected  were  a processor  to  satisfy  a                                                            
judgment with  another asset such  as cash. This bill would  "change                                                            
that in that the  mere existence of a judgment in  excess of $10,000                                                            
would trigger"  increasing the bond  level from $10,000 to  $50,000.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:47:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  whether the  Committee's  questions thus  far                                                            
could be more  appropriately answered  by the Department  of Revenue                                                            
or the Department of Labor and Workforce Development.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK SHIER, Acting Deputy  Director, Employment Security Tax, and                                                            
Chief,  Division of  Employment Security,  Department  of Labor  and                                                            
Workforce  Development, stated  that Mr. Harlamert  has handled  the                                                            
questions quite  well. This legislation  would allow the  Department                                                            
of Labor  and  Workforce Development  to  move against  a bond  more                                                            
quickly than  it could currently;  the quicker the Department  could                                                            
act, the quicker  that problems could be resolved  before either the                                                            
fish, cash, or processor left the State.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green appreciated that information.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert stated  that  under current  law,  any processor  who                                                            
could demonstrate  a  piece of real  property located  in the  State                                                            
equal to  the required  bond level  would be excused  from the  bond                                                            
requirement.  This would  be acceptable  were no  trouble to  arise;                                                            
however, the  process of foreclosing  against that real property  to                                                            
satisfy a judgment  could be problematic.  This bill would  restrict                                                            
the use of  real property in a case  where a processor had  a record                                                            
of failure to pay, and a cash bond would be required.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert stated  that  the changes  in the  bond requirements                                                             
would make the process more responsive and easy to access.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  ascertained that  the real concern being  addressed                                                            
by the  proposed  bond changes  would be  a floating  processor  who                                                            
might be in the State today  but gone tomorrow as opposed to a fixed                                                            
shore-side  processor who  might get  into a liquidity  bind  due to                                                            
market conditions or mismanagement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:49:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  stated that established  longtime corporate  citizens                                                            
of Alaska  tend to have real  property and  they are allowed  to use                                                            
that property in lieu of  the bond. Floating or itinerant processors                                                            
did not have similar  connections to the State and  therefore a cash                                                            
bond was  required  from them to  protect fishermen  and  employees.                                                            
There has  been no change  in the basic bond  level or the  right to                                                            
use real  property in  lieu of  cash requirements.  The only  change                                                            
would be in the case of  a processor who displayed a history of non-                                                            
payment.  The  consequences   would  be  more  immediate  and  "more                                                            
realistic".                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   understood  therefore   that  were  he   a  small                                                            
processor,  he would be required  to get a  bond. To that point,  he                                                            
asked whether  his house could be  recognized as collateral  in lieu                                                            
of cash provided he had no prior judgment history.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  responded that Co-Chair  Wilken would be required  to                                                            
purchase a bond were he  to buy fish in the State unless he had real                                                            
property he could use in lieu of the cash bond.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken understood  therefore that  a portion of his  house                                                            
could be used unless a judgment had been levied against him.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:52:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  affirmed.  He communicated  that  the judgment  issue                                                            
could be revisited after a few years.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Shier  stated  that  the  Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce                                                            
Development  supports this  bill because it  would require  that all                                                            
taxes, assessments,  and judgment  must be  current. Thus,  it would                                                            
allow "the slate to be  clean" going into the coming year. It should                                                            
be  noted that  processors  are provided  "ample  opportunities"  to                                                            
address  the situation  through  options  such as  deferred  payment                                                            
contracts  and negotiated  settlements. The  Department "recognizes                                                             
the fact the employers  provide jobs. That is very important" and no                                                            
effort is made "to hobble  the folks that want to do the right thing                                                            
or ?. might fall on hard times in a particular year."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shier stated  that the bill would also provide  an incentive for                                                            
a processor to contact  the Department and rectify a situation. Sec.                                                            
3 would specify the length  of time that would be available in which                                                            
to secure a bond.  The bond is important, as sometimes  "that is the                                                            
only thing  that is left  after the fish is  gone, the cash  is gone                                                            
and the employer is gone".  Many things could contribute to the need                                                            
for a higher  bond amount. The Department  supports the language  to                                                            
that point.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  to  report the  bill  from  Committee  with                                                            
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  objection,  CS  SB  124(L&C)   was  REPORTED  from                                                            
Committee  with zero  fiscal note  #2, dated February  4, 2005  from                                                            
Department  of Commerce,  Community and  Economic Development;  zero                                                            
fiscal note #3, dated December  16, 2004 from Department of Fish and                                                            
Game;  zero  fiscal  note  #4, dated  February  24,  2005  from  the                                                            
Employment  Security  Division, Department  of  Labor and  Workforce                                                            
Development; zero  fiscal note #5, dated February  24, 2005 from the                                                            
Division  of Labor  Standards and  Safety, Department  of Labor  and                                                            
Workforce  Development,  and new zero  fiscal note,  dated April  1,                                                            
2005 from the Department of Revenue.                                                                                            

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